JI Packer signed declaration of "Evangelicals and Catholics Together"

Discussion in 'Faith, Devotion & Formation' started by anglican74, Aug 1, 2022.

  1. anglican74

    anglican74 Well-Known Member Anglican

    Posts:
    1,833
    Likes Received:
    1,343
    Country:
    USA
    Religion:
    Anglican (ACNA)
    I did not know that... Packer signed this document:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicals_and_Catholics_Together

    Apparently, RC. Sproul said of this, Ah those Anglicans, they have one foot in geneva and another in rome

    Now for me, I don't have any feet in geneva or rome, but it is very surprising that such a notable Evangelical as Packer signed that declaration which bridged a huge span of disagreements with Roman Catholics
     
  2. Shane R

    Shane R Well-Known Member

    Posts:
    1,176
    Likes Received:
    1,224
    Country:
    USA
    Religion:
    Anglican
    Here's the actual statement, which is called "The Gift of Salvation": https://www.firstthings.com/article/1998/01/001-the-gift-of-salvation

    It's not objectionable. It also doesn't say a whole lot. Even less than the "Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification" (http://www.christianunity.va/conten...-sulla-dottrina-della-giustificazion/en1.html) which the Romans and the Lutheran World Federation released around the same time.

    Additionally, "The Gift of Salvation" had no official standing.
     
    bwallac2335 likes this.
  3. Ananias

    Ananias Well-Known Member Anglican

    Posts:
    842
    Likes Received:
    708
    Country:
    USA
    Religion:
    ACNA
    There was something of a falling-out between Martyn Lloyd-Jones and John Stott over the same issue, as I recall.

    I think the issue was less theological -- Packer was as Calvinist as Sproul theologically -- than institutional. I think Stott and Packer were of that generation of Anglicans who existed in the "ecumenical wave" that washed over the Christian world in the 50's and 60's, and their impulse was always to reach out and try to find common ground. Packer and Stott were criticized as being "compromisers" at the time, but this is both unkind and unfair: they were not just theologians but also churchmen steeped in the Anglican tradition. They believed in their church as an instrument of ecumenical outreach as well as a repository of Godly practice and doctrine. In this they were both disappointed -- Stott though dismayed remained to the last, but Packer ended up leaving both England and the CofE in the end.
     
  4. anglican74

    anglican74 Well-Known Member Anglican

    Posts:
    1,833
    Likes Received:
    1,343
    Country:
    USA
    Religion:
    Anglican (ACNA)
    Oh I know, I have no concerns on my end.... just really surprising to see JI Packer that old dog high puritan, undertaking all these actions, like shaking hands with RCC on justification... And having a hand in the ACNA catechism's remarkably anti-puritan doctrines... His journey as a churchman is fascinating