Archbishop Justin Welby blesses Pope Francis in Rome, June 16, 2014. Click here for the rest of the article: http://www.unavox.it/ArtDiversi/DIV840_Federici_Bergoglio_benedetto.html http://yvesdaoudal.hautetfort.com/archive/2014/06/19/autodestruction-5394608.html
This just made laugh. So Francis allows a member of a church that is excommunicated bless him and people claim the catholic church has not changed.
Let me know when the See of Rome considers our oridinations,sacramental work and general ministry as valid as the Roman see then.
Now Since it became norm since v2 to consider all Christian as equal. Also any Anglican group can rejoin Rome, so logicaly all our Orders are valid still. Before v2 this would be pure heresy. Heck there is a lot people who would say Francis is not a bishop cause the Traditional rite of Ordination changes, would make the Arch Bishop Canterbury the only real bishop here.
Anglican priests who become RC still have to be re-ordained. Which at least implies that Anglican orders remain unrecognized.
Well that is interesting i heard differently and thanks to our fellow friend google i made a mistake. This raises a few questions for my cynical mind.
Anglicans have been "excommunicated" with Rome since Elizabeth I. And frankly, unless the RCC actually gets with the picture and relizes that they are only one path way to God then the Roman See is more out of communion then the Anglican Communion or any other Christian denomination is. At least Welby prayed for the man, but I remain skeptical that the Roman See will finally see sense after how many hundreds of years.
RCC is on the fast track to universalism. I do not think it is a good idea for complete inclusivism, we still have to stay true to the scriptures and our history.
Staying true to that doesn't mean there isn't room for reasonable meditation and study on the Scripture and our history as the Christian Church is far from ideal at any time in history. Also, if the Pope and the RCC are still saying that the RCC is the ONLY pathway to salvation, that's not universalist...that's still not only exclusionary but insular.
Well as an ex catholic read the catechism of the catholic church, read the writings of JPii for starters for how close to universalism the RC is.
LOL...again a rather reactionary response to theological outlooks as being somehow "dangerous" as our revelations of God and his plan have increased. So "God is Dead" and theology and response to revelation have to ascribe to certain facts for it to be true? The Catechism, like the 39 Articles, like the Ausburg confession, or any statement of faith can evolve over time. That is what revelation is...it's not something that's comfortable.
The reason we have so many divisions in the Christian Church is because every other group believes they are the only one true way to God... Quite amusing really...
And here we are, trying to project the fact that we as mankind speak for Him.....hubris in it's biggest form
He spoke in scripture. We have are creeds. Nothing has changed except for man in his sinful nature to change God, to excuse there sins. To instead of being obedient to God, to rebel. We are standing before the mount making golden calves.
They are all fingers pointing to the truth, the way and the life once we become so arrogant that we believe we the one and only true Holy Catholic and Apostolic finger we have totally lost the point, and we slip into sick religion.