Faith, Baptism and Eucharist

Discussion in 'Sacraments, Sacred Rites, and Holy Orders' started by Weston Letson, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. Weston Letson

    Weston Letson New Member

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    If salvation is by grace through faith alone, then why are Holy Baptism and Holy Communion necessary to partake in?
     
  2. The Dark Knight

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    God gives grace to us through means. The Church is his instrument for dispensing grace. Each of the sacraments has a different part to play in strengthening our faith, bringing us into deeper fellowship with God and the Church. Salvation is more of a lifelong process than a moment. The sacraments contribute to our faith and spiritual growth. Also, we don't necessarily believe in "once saved, always saved." We need all the grace that we can get! God set these things up for our benefit and instructed us to make use of them. That's why we do what we do.
     
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    The sacraments have been called the seeds and medicine of faith. They quicken and grow faith.
     
  4. Gordon

    Gordon Well-Known Member

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    The Eucharist is the centre of prayer for Franciscans and our Rule stipulates that we must attend regularly.
     
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    WCF, Chap. 27, Of the Sacraments:

    I. Sacraments are holy signs and seals of the covenant of grace,[1] immediately instituted by God,[2] to represent Christ and His benefits; and to confirm our interest in Him:[3] as also, to put a visible difference between those that belong unto the Church and the rest of the world;[4] and solemnly to engage them to the service of God in Christ, according to His Word.[5]

    II. There is, in every sacrament, a spiritual relation, or sacramental union, between the sign and the thing signified: whence it comes to pass, that the names and effects of the one are attributed to the other.[6]

    III. The grace which is exhibited in or by the sacraments rightly used, is not conferred by any power in them; neither does the efficacy of a sacrament depend upon the piety or intention of him that does administer it:[7] but upon the work of the Spirit,[8] and the word of institution, which contains, together with a precept authorizing the use thereof, a promise of benefit to worthy receivers.[9]

    IV. There are only two sacraments ordained by Christ our Lord in the Gospel; that is to say, Baptism, and the Supper of the Lord: neither of which may be dispensed by any, but by a minister of the Word lawfully ordained.[10]

    V. The sacraments of the Old Testament in regard to the spiritual things thereby signified and exhibited, were, for substance, the same with those of the new.[11]
     
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  6. Jeff F

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    First, let me say that I'm glad you're searching and asking doctrinal questions! Historically, baptism has been a sign or mark of belonging to God's church, this is the reason we baptize infants in the Anglican churches (and others), but the expression of saving faith usually comes at confirmation. The sacraments are explained as an outward expression of an existing internal faith. I don't know that I could say Holy Communion is "necessary", but for a person to say that they love their family dearly, but not want to have a family meal with them would be a bit odd. The Eucharist is not only the physical presence of Jesus, but the fellowship of our believing family at the altar. I would suggest obtaining a Book of Common Prayer from your local parish, and read the catechism and articles in the back of the book, this will be very helpful! Keep asking questions my friend :)

    Jeff
     
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  7. highchurchman

    highchurchman Well-Known Member Anglican

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    Why is baptism necessary? Baptism is the means of entering the Church, the Body of Christ! It makes you a Christian.

    The Eucharist ? ,Receiving it, is a response to an injunction of Our Lord, i.e. "Do this in remembrance of Me!" As is in fact Baptism.
     
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    If anyone is depending on an outward ritual to make him/her a Christian, that person is still in his/her sins. Only faith in Jesus can make anyone a Christian. I've known many Christians who have not been water baptized, and I've known many water baptized people who were not Christians.
     
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    When we say that, we mean that it is the beginning of the life of faith (except for those who come to faith before their baptism). At least, that's how I use it. You're using Christian to mean one who has faith in Christ. Others might mean one who has formally entered the Church. Either way, the faithful in the Church should be baptized; and the baptized should profess & show faith.
     
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    I know, I understand, and I agree. :)

    But there is the teaching of baptismal regeneration, which I reject.
     
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    Nicely said.
     
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    Good question from the OP. And I think the answers are excellent.

    ...Scottish Monk
     
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    I'm reminded of Bishop Stott's comments that we often confuse the baptized with the regenerate, and that salvation can come before, during, or after baptism!;)

    Jeff
     
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    Well there was never "alone" that was added. Salvation is by faith through God's grace alone