https://twitter.com/docrussjackson/status/1572001692169768960 Yet another TRULY 'Anglican' fake passes themselves off as Anglican. .
Given that the CofE and TEC recognized the heretic John Shelby Spong as a duly ordained Anglican priest, I'm not sure either body is qualified to judge who is and is not a Godly minister of the Gospel at this point. (Both provinces still officially refuse to recognize the elevation of ACNA's Abp. Beach also.) Happily, orthodox Anglican aspirants in England have other paths to follow now. Ordination requires assent to certain points of doctrine and church practice, and the irony in Dcn. Robinson's case is that he was rejected for CofE ordination because he believes in the traditional affirmations and doctrines of the Anglican church and refused to repudiate them. Calvin Robinson is more Anglican than a good number of sitting Bishops in CofE and TEC on points of doctrine and practice. A lot of the hostility towards him comes from the fact that he is an effective, well-spoken, and photogenic speaker who does well in the modern media environment, and because he is, well, orthodox in his doctrine (and conservative in his politics, which in the eyes of liberals is the greater crime by far).
Really I should have said passes himself off as a vicar in the Church of England, which he is not, even though he dresses like one. .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Robinson A quick search provided me a little more background than twitter. Given the complexity of the variety of Anglican positions inside and outside the communion, I am not sure that we can any longer call people fakes. https://fcofe.org.uk/calvin-robinson-was-ordained-to-the-diaconate/ And here is the article and some photos of his ordination to the Diaconate and the Free Church of England.
Are you implying that fake Christians can no longer be identified by deed and speech regardless of costume and acclaim by the Alt-Rt media?
Of course not, they refused to ordain him. He's in some cock-a-maimy sect calling itself 'The Free Church of England' which has about 2500 members tops. .
I know next to nothing about the Free Church of England, save they have been in the arena since 1874, and represented a conservative response to the Anglo-Catholic growth following the Oxford Movement. Of course, it is interesting that Calvin Robinson trained at St Stephen's House, Oxford. They are listed on the list of churches not in communion with Canterbury but still have some claim to be Anglican. http://www.anglicansonline.org/communion/nic.html I probably think given the state of play in Anglican Circles, inside and outside the Communion, we should probably not throw the sect word around quite this freely without a little more circumspection, and possibly evidence. Whilst there may be some sense of technical correctness in using the term, we all know that it is a value-loaded term, and those values are largely negative, so perhaps not all that helpful.
The fact remains though that in the UK, if anyone wants to dress up and pretend to be an actual vicar, giving the impression that they actually ARE a Church of England vicar, but are NOT, it is not actually illegal and they are not able to be prosecuted for impersonating a Church of England vicar unless they actually commit a crime. Dressing up and conning others that you are a real vicar is not apparently a 'crime'. .
That does not seem to be the issue here. He has studied as a prestige college in Oxford, and I presume has a degree of some sort, and has been ordained in a Church that has some right to call itself Anglican. He was not accepted for orders by a C of E Bishop, and I don;t know how that works in Engkand, in Australia it is Diocese by Diocese.
As of 2013 the CoE recognizes the Free Church of England’s orders and will allow them to preside at CoE churches and services. So he is recognized in his orders by the CoE and they see him as a valid Deacon so this thread is kinda pointless
Calvin Robinson has been very open about leaving the Church of England for the GAFCON movement. He has a considerable media presence and has given his account in both print and television. Dislike him, his politics and his religious views all you like, but there has been no impersonation.
Lastly I would certainly rather that you avoided calling my denomination a "cock-a-maimy sect" most especially on an Anglican forum given that our doctrine is that of the Reformation-Era Church of England. Our point of divergence (Anglo-Catholicism) is one on which this forum accepts both sides as Anglican and our opposition to female ordination matches this forum's policy against advocacy for WO.
I hadn't heard of him until now. Here's what I found. EXCLUSIVE: Not woke enough to be a vicar! Black political commentator Calvin Robinson who said Britain is NOT a racist country is BLOCKED from becoming a priest by white bishop as a result
Point taken, I overstepped the mark. It is more a denomination on its own having had its own schisms since its inception, just as the Real Church of England has. Having accepted the orders of the Free Church of England in a general sense, the Actual Church of England obviously would not necessarily agree with the views of the 'Revd' Calvin Robinson, just as it probably would not accept the personal views of many other maverick Alt-Rt clerics in its own ranks, on both theological and moral grounds. The fact remains that the man has not been ordained in The Church of England but in what is essentially a Free Evangelical Calvinist Denomination, which seems to happily accept into positions of leadership those who express publicly some very Alt-Rt and Ult-Left, extremist political and sectarian opinions. (The actual Church of England has had plenty of problem clergy itself in the past and still contains some within its ranks, no doubt. There have always been 'tares' amongst the 'wheat' in every denomination.) I offer you my apology for labelling your denomination 'a sect'. That was unfair of me and inaccurate. I just hope that the 'Revd.' Calvin Robinson does not become an embarrassment to your denomination as he narrowly threatened to become to the Church of England, had it foolishly and unquestioningly gone ahead and ordained him. .
I have two extremely good reasons for not listening to anything Mr Calvin Robinson has to say. One he was spouting his current nonsense on GB News. Secondly, I totally disagree with him that Our Lord Jesus Christ would agree with the UK Tory Government's attempts to force asylum seekers to be transported to Rwanda.