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alphaomega · Jun 17, 2016

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UECNA

United Episcopal Church North America. It is one of the first 3-4 jurisdictions that formed from Episcopalians who left that church due to
women's ordination and the changing of the prayer book. Both done outside of Convention and Synod meetings.

UECNA is very low church. I know one parish that in its canons forbids anyone from having a rosary and the priest can own no vestments other than
a cassock, surplice and stoles. Also, no tabs only the "dog collar" is allowed. They wanted me as a Curate. Great talk on the phone, when I arrived
interview was over before it started. I had the tab and a Benedictine Crucifix around my neck. I was glad to leave.

Fr. Mark
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I completely understand. I def. need a profound liturgy.

Aidan · Jun 17, 2016

Mark said: ↑

UECNA

United Episcopal Church North America. It is one of the first 3-4 jurisdictions that formed from Episcopalians who left that church due to
women's ordination and the changing of the prayer book. Both done outside of Convention and Synod meetings.

UECNA is very low church. I know one parish that in its canons forbids anyone from having a rosary and the priest can own no vestments other than
a cassock, surplice and stoles. Also, no tabs only the "dog collar" is allowed. They wanted me as a Curate. Great talk on the phone, when I arrived
interview was over before it started. I had the tab and a Benedictine Crucifix around my neck. I was glad to leave.

Fr. Mark
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What is a "tab"?

alphaomega · Jun 17, 2016

Mark said: ↑

Most jurisdictions will try to share. The REC as a whole is broad to low Church with a growing Anglo-Catholic wing. My Bishop is low Church, from a
Presbyterian Church background. I am Anglo-Catholic. We get along great. Had an hour phone conversation with him yesterday. His Canon to the Ordinary is Anglo-Catholic.

The REC and APA share priests. APA is very Anglo-Catholic. For the most part there are not any conflicts I have seen between the Anglo-Catholics and low Church man. But there are some. Speaking only for the REC. The Anglo-Catholics are very accepting and if an Anglo-Catholic priest is in a low
church parish, they respect that. Sadly most of the conflicts come from the low Church, newly converted or puritan strain towards Anglo-Catholics.
I remember filling in for a REC parish that was low Church. I arrived with my vestments and proceeded to vest in the sacristy. The Deacon came in
and said, "ummm, father they don't like anything but cassock, surplice and stole. Anything else is Roman Catholic and considered not Christian."
I duly vested as they liked. After Mass, yes I slipped a few times, a gentleman came up and said, "it was good to have a true Anglican minister here, not one of those Catholics trying to be Anglican." I smiled. He kept going on about something or another, when a young mother came up with a sick child. She asked if it was proper to ask for a blessing. I immediately asked has the child be baptized? Yes. (would not have stopped the blessing, but the child was extremely sick and eventually went to the hospital. She is well.)

I blessed the baby, sign of the cross, oils etc. Invited the mother to kneel with me at the altar rail. Prayed for the child and her mother and then said, "I am going to ask a mother to pray for your child." She said please do. I began, Hail Mary full of Grace. Added at the end....Mother of God pray for this small child. The Lords will be done.

The mother was so grateful. The man who was so glad I was a "true Anglican minister" was angry. We had a very difficult conversation, for him, for the next hour. I was there for 3 more weeks.

I am sure there have been Anglo-Catholics that have done so very unbecoming things. I have not witnessed it. I am a minority in my jurisdiction, so my view could be limited.

Blessings,

Fr. Mark
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The REC church I go to is broad with high leanings. I understand a lot of REC churches esp. in the past were low church. I guess in recent times the pastor determines which way the chuch leans. As much as he can anyway.

CWJ · Jun 17, 2016

Aidan said: ↑

What is a "tab"?
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I believe it is the clerical black shirt with the collar folded down and an opening in the front, over a white tab underneath?
I'm not entirely sure...I'm sure Fr. Mark will chime in

I've only recently begun researching vestment names The names confuse me at times.

Christina · Jun 17, 2016

Andy said: ↑

WO = women's ordination
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